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Talking COVID with Dr. Blackburn: July 2020

The Scowcroft Institute at Texas A&M has been offering regular COVID updates for viewers, and this month’s update, with Dr. Christine Blackburn, featured medical officials from Brownsville, Texas, where the Coronavirus has been particularly destructive.

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Blackburn’s guests were Michelle Jones, an epidemiologist, and Dr. Art Rodriguez.  Both live and work in the Brownsville area.\

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Dr. Blackburn, who is the Assistant Director for the Scowcroft Institute’s Pandemic and Biosecurity Policy Program, led off with updates.  In the US, we have approximately 3.3 million cases and 136,000 deaths.  In Texas, we have about 274,000 cases and 3,300 deaths.

Following her updates, Dr. Blackburn turned it over Dr. Rodgriguez and Michelle Jones.  In Brownsville, Dr. Rodriguez noted, the area is showing a surge in case positivity, with 30 percent of the tests coming back positive.  Moreover, the hospital capacity in Brownsville is 400 beds, and right now, the hospitals are at 95 percent, with ICU and ER beds being beyond capacity.

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Ms. Jones added that, one of the confounding variables in Brownsville is that there is much foot traffic between the City and Mexico, making collaboration with Mexican officials important.

SHSU, LEAP Center, Center for Law Engagement And Politics, Texas A&M Bush School, Scowcroft Institute, Dr. Christine Blackburn, Dr. Art Rodriguez, Michelle Jones, Brownsville TX

Both Rodriguez and Jones highlighted some of the steps Brownsville has taken to combat the issue.  The City of 185,000 people, has unveiled a five-level threat matrix, which offers suggestions at each stage on how to mitigate the threat; they are taking steps to double their daily testing capacity, which should be complete by next week; and they are working with the local college to lead sanitation classes, which will help educate the public on mitigation and containment strategies.

Dr. Blackburn then took questions, some of which were political, a sensitive area, especially if the questions involve your employer.  “How will Texas A&M bring back in-person classes without a spike in cases?”  This is, Dr. Blackburn noted, “a significant challenge,” which will be “very, very, very difficult.”  

And: “Why doesn’t Brazos County Office of Emergency Management report the percent of positive cases in their testing and their contact tracing more quickly?”  This is a “labor intensive process,” and Brazos County Health Department is “doing all they can, and working very hard to respond” to the community’s needs.

These questions were fielded with a smile, perhaps an acknowledgement of the difficulty of answering such questions.

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One question, which is on many minds, is the question of immunity.  How long will it last?  Dr. Blackburne noted that no one knows that yet.  Preliminary reports indicate that antibodies may not long linger in the body, limiting the amount of immunity they will provide.  But she believes that t-cells might be a fruitful research direction, noting that even if “immunity can last a year, the public could get seasonal vaccines.”

But the discussion was also sobering, with all three panelists seeing this is a long-term issue.  It’s not clear that we will return to normal in the foreseeable future, and the panelists suggested we should prepare for “hills and valleys.”  The key, Dr. Blackburne noted, is coming up with strategies that can effectively mitigate the spread and impact of COVID but “which can also be sustained.”  

Given the level of noncompliance with existing strategies (social distancing, masks), it’s not clear that sustainable and effective strategies exist for our current level of knowledge about the virus.

Many thanks to the Scowcroft Institute, Dr. Blackburn, Dr. Rodriguez, and Ms. Jones for their very informative presentation.  The program can be seen in its entirety here.

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Author mikeyawnPosted on July 15, 2020July 15, 2020Format AsideCategories Civic Engagement, Health, PoliticsTags Brownsville TX, Center for Law Engagement And Politics, Dr. Art Rodriguez, Dr. Christine Blackburn, LEAP Center, Michelle Jones, Scowcroft Institute, SHSU, Texas A&M Bush SchoolLeave a comment on Talking COVID with Dr. Blackburn: July 2020

Weekly COVID Update with Dr. Christine Blackburne

by Makayla Mason,

Dr. Christine Blackburne, the Assistant Director of the Scowcroft Institute’s Pandemic and Biosecurity Policy Program at the Bush School of Government Affairs and Public Service (whew!), conducts a weekly update on the COVID-19 virus, and those have proved informative to the LEAP Ambassadors, so we continue to tune in.

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This week, she began the video with discussing masks, stating that masks are more designed to keep those who are infected from spreading it than protecting those who do not have it from becoming infected. She explained a few basic rules for using masks such as:

  • Masks need to be properly fitted.
  • When taking masks off, do not touch your mouth area, and immediately wash your hands.
  • Do NOT put masks on children under 2, anyone with breathing problems, or individuals who cannot remove the mask themselves.

Some people have been frustrated or confused by the changing policy on masks.  Originally, only infected people were encouraged to wear masks.  Now, everyone is encouraged to wear a mask.  Why the change?  Originally, the medical community had no idea there were so many asymptomatic carriers, and we wanted to ensure that sufficient masks existed for health care providers.  Now we know that it’s very possible that 50 percent (or more) of the infected could be carriers without even knowing it, it’s important that as many as people as possible wear masks.SHSU, LEAP Center, LEAP Ambassadors, LEAP Students, Center for Law Engagement And Politics, Texas A&M Bush School, Scowcroft Institute of International Affairs, Dr. Christine Blackburn

She then moved into answering the questions.

The first question asked if there were predictive models about the economic impact, if there are approaches for bringing people back to work, and if there are ways to “pandemic proof” the economy?  The problem, she noted, is that without accurate information, we cannot make good comparisons of life and economics, and it will be difficult to get this information before 3-4 months of data.

Some people have called for allowing greater mobility, letting people catch it (especially if so many people are asymptomatic), and developing herd immunity.  She points out, though, that we don’t know with accuracy what the reproductive number is (R nought).  Some estimates have been in the 6 range, and this would mean that 82 percent of the people would need to be infected before herd immunity took effect.

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The next question asked if the social distancing measures are just extending the curve, when do we decide to go to “Plan B,” and when do we decide it is not containable? Dr. Blackburne’s response was that social distancing measures do expand the amount of time, but this allows for medical resources to stay under capacity. If we “flatten the curve,” this will keep the number of people coming into the hospital under the capacity, and hospitals will not have to decide who lives and who dies due to lack of resources. If each wave can be kept under capacity, lives are being saved because the medical field can work. She believes that we are currently working “Plan B” and that if we start re-opening now, there will be a lot of unnecessary deaths. She thinks we are in a mitigation phase and no longer able to contain, but able to mitigate the impact caused.

The third question asked if there is proof that someone can develop antibodies and not get infected? Dr. Blackburne said yes, but with 14% of people testing positive a second time, it is unclear if they are being re-infected, or if it went dormant (it’s also possible they had a false positive and were never really infected).

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There were a few questions about Texas specifically. Dr. Blackburne thinks Texas will play a big role in developing a vaccine. In regard to Texas’ peak, there are two different models, University of Washington and University of Texas at Austin, that show different peaks, both occurring before June.

Although, many scientists believe there will be a second wave in the fall…

 

Author mikeyawnPosted on April 22, 2020April 22, 2020Format AsideCategories Civic Engagement, PoliticsTags Center for Law Engagement And Politics, Dr. Christine Blackburn, LEAP Ambassadors, LEAP Center, LEAP Students, Scowcroft Institute of International Affairs, SHSU, Texas A&M Bush SchoolLeave a comment on Weekly COVID Update with Dr. Christine Blackburne

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